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Mon 22nd     1st  Bob S & Terry             65%       2nd    Mike & Richard M                         58%

Wed 24th     1st   Bob S & Terry             64%       2nd    Lewis & Janne                                61%

Fri 26th         1st  Hans V & Janne           64%       2nd    Jeremy & Sally                               56%


Bidding Quiz                    Standard American bidding is assumed unless otherwise stated.


Hand A           Hand B           With Hand A you open 1NT and partner transfers with 2.

You bid 2 and partner bids 2NT, what do you do?

KQ9             A753

J9                 652              With Hand B partner opens 2 and you choose to relay with

AQ85           KQJ75         2. Partner then bids 2, what do you bid?

QJ109          J                                         


Hand C           Hand D           With Hand C RHO opens 1, what do you bid?


Q9842          AK976                                

A53              Q                  With Hand D RHO opens 1. (a) what do you do?

A                  AJ4               (b) Suppose you double and partner bids 1, what now?

8543            AQ93


Hand E            Hand F            With Hands E   and F we have the same auction - you are West:          

QJ7              AKJ10          West        North     East        South

AQJ10         1084             -               pass       pass       1

A7432          A74             dbl           1          pass       2

J                   AQJ             pass         2          pass       pass

                                                ?                                                      (what do you bid as West?)



Bidding Sequence Quiz


G     pass   pass   1     dbl        

        1      pass   2     pass

        2      pass   pass   dbl               Is this 2nd dbl take-out or penalties?

H     2     pass   2      pass            2 is strong, 2 is a relay, is 3 natural or 4th suit forcing?

        2      pass   3     



The Club Championships


Here are the latest standings in the club competitions. There’s a big stir in the Gold Cup, with Hans Vikman entering the lists with a leap into 2nd position, just behind Dave.




Gold Cup = Best 30

Silver Plate = Best 10

Bronze Medal = Best 5













1836.6 Dave Cutler

1830.7 Hans Vikman

1815.8 Sally Watson

1782.6 Bob Pelletier

1782.5 Ivy Schlageter

1714.7 Jan v Koss


667.7 Hans Vikman

661.8 Dave Cutler

661.1 Sally Watson

661.1 Jeremy Watson

642.7 Ivy Schlageter

642.0 Lars Gustafsson

635.3 Lewis Berg

634.3 Derek & Gerard

628.6 Bob Pelletier

623.8 Janne Roos



347.2 Hans Vikman

342.3 Dave Cutler

341.1 Jeremy Watson

341.1 Sally Watson

336.9 Lars Gustafsson

335.3 Ivy Schlageter

328.5 Derek & Gerard

327.7 Lewis Berg 

327.4 Tomas Wikman

320.7 Bob Short




Don’t bid your hand twice                                    Board 8 from Monday 22nd


Dealer:             AQ8432                                     West          North         East          South

West                -                                                 pass           2              dbl   (1)    pass (2)

Love all            K1065                                       3    (3)      pass           4    (4)    dbl   (5)

                        543                                            all pass


5                         N             J97                 (1)  I don’t like this with a two-suiter. 

J962               W    E          AK87             (2)  Normally it’s best to raise partner, but with

Q32                    S              AJ984                   this suit you might just get lucky.

K10986                             7                    (3)  West understandably bid his 4-card suit

                        K106                                    (4)  This is terrible, it’s a marginal double and

Q10543                                     most certainly is not worth another bid.

7                                          (5)  These guys must be beginners?



And what happened? 4* went -2 and a clear top to N-S.

The bottom lines: -

-         A double of a weak two should be playable in the other three suits.

-     Double and raise partner’s minimal response shows a very big hand.


Basic Play Errors
                                                 Board 1 from Monday 22nd

Two of the club’s very top players were paired up on this board – but they both made a basic defensive error.

West          North         East          South

Dealer:             AK6                                           pass           1NT (1)      pass         pass

North               Q2                                              pass (2)     

Love all            KJ1094                                

                        964                                      (1)  12-14  

(2)  It would be nice to be able to compete with

Q95                    N             1073                    2 here, but systematically that would show

K9743            W    E          AJ106                 ’s and a minor suit.

52                       S              Q3                       

AQ8                                   K752             Anyway, East led the J and      

                        J842                                     (a) West played an encouraging 3!

85                                              Clearly West must play the K.

A876                                         North won and led the J and

J103                                     (b)  East covered!

This cannot be right. If partner has the K

it gains nothing and if declarer has the K

with a 4 card suit then he is going win the

A and finesse West for the Q.


And what happened? 1NT made +1 for the only +ve score in the N-S column

The bottom lines: -

-         Third hand plays high. West not playing the K is a no win play.

-         Only cover an honour with an honour if you are likely to promote a card in your hand or partner’s, or if dummy has a 5-6 card suit with no outside entry (see below).



Cover the Jack when holding Qx?

It depends upon the situation, imagine you are South and that West is the dummy and that declarer is a competent player who leads the J:


A9xx                                            In this situation you should not cover, declarer is often trying

                  Qx                             to flush out the queen when he is holding KJ10x and has a two-way finesse.


A109xx(x)                                    Here there is no other entry to dummy. You should play the

Qx                             Q, the reason being that partner may well have Kxx and has to

hold up to prevent declarer getting 4(5) tricks in the suit. If you play low partner should still duck but declarer gets two tricks instead of just one. Of course if you duck and partner plays his king then declarer makes the rest of the suit


A silly penalty double                                          Board 4 from Wednesday 22nd


Dealer:             10653                                         Table A

West                A10865                                      West          North         East          South

Love all            1062                                          1   (1)      pass           1            pass

                        4                                                1NT (2)      pass           2    (3)    pass

                                                                              3NT           pass           pass         dbl   (4)

KQ9                   N             A4                        redbl (5)     all pass

J9                   W    E          KQ732          

AQ85                 S              943                      Standard American Table

QJ109                                865                      West(A)     North         East          South

                        J872                                          1NT           pass           2            pass

4                                                 2              pass           2NT         pass

KJ7                                            3NT (6)      all pass



Table A:     (1)  Playing a weak NT.

(2)  15-16

(3)  I play this as a weak bid, and would bid 2 (NMF – New Minor Forcing) or 2 (CBS – Checkback Stayman) with this hand. However, I assume that this well established pair have the agreement that it’s strong?

(4)  What do you think of this double? This hand has two tricks and the opponents have feely bid to game. I can see no reason whatsoever to double, especially as this asks partner to lead a (dummy’s first bid suit).

(5)  Showing suitable contempt for South’s double.

 ‘Standard  (2)  Everybody else opened a strong 1NT

  Table’:      (6)  What did you bid with this West hand A in this week’s quiz? 15 points is not usually enough to accept, but the J9 in partner’s suit and the other intermediates including the great QJ109 make it worth a try in my opinion.


And what happened? 3NT* lost the obvious 3 tricks and made +1 for a gifted top. Actually, it would have been a top anyway as nobody else bid the 3NT game; two passed 2NT at (6) and the other pair bid 4 which went two down

The bottom lines: -

-         A double of a freely bid 3NT asks partner to lead dummy’s 1st bid suit and means that you have a surprise for declarer (generally a nice suit siting over dummy). Do not double just because you have two, maybe 3 tricks.

-         When evaluating a hand, QJ109 is more than 4 points. In fact on this deal it made as many tricks as South’s AKxxx (i.e.two).

-         A long suit (South’s AKxxx) only scores extra tricks if you have an entry!



Dave’s Column           Here is Dave’s second input involving the play of the hand.


West                East                  You are East, declarer in 3NT.

103               K5                South leads the 7 which North wins and returns

Q109            AK2             the 4 which you win perforce. Plan the play.

AJ1097         Q543                                  

Q43             AK62

Dave’s Column answer                      Board 26 from Wednesday 17th  


Dealer:             A96                                            West          North         East            South

East                  J876                                           -                 -                 1   (1)      pass

Both vul            K82                                           1              pass           2NT           pass

                        1075                                          3NT


103                     N             K5                  (1)  This is the bidding from the book and also

Q109              W    E          AK2                     at our table. So note that Eddie Kantar

AJ1097               S              Q543                   also opens 1 when 4-4 in the minors.

Q43                                   AK62            


543                                       Plan the play after you win the 2nd round of ’s.




You have 8 top tricks, 1 , 3 ’s, 1 and 3 ’s and need just one more trick to secure the contract.

That extra trick can either come from the finesse or a possible 3-3 division. If you could try only one you would try the finesse because that’s a 50-50 proposition (and will also yield 5 ticks if it works) whereas the 3-3 division is only 36%. But when you can try both…

Play off 3 rounds of ’s and see if they break 3-3. If they do you have 9 tricks and should not risk the finesse. Only if ’s do not divide evenly should you try the finesse,         


And what happened at the Pattaya Bridge Club? 4 pairs were in 3NT; two passed the test and two failed. At a 5th table West was declarer in 3NT and made +2 but this score was adjusted downwards when they subsequently mis-boarded the board so that the last pair did not play the correct cards.


Terry’s Comment: Looks like I have to re-phrase my comment last week about AJ1097 being worth 7 points. As Bob Short pointed out, it was only 4 on this deal. Of course this was because of the lack of a 2nd stop. Had there been a 2nd stop, or a not led (as when played by West at the one table), then the suit would have netted 4 tricks (5 if the K was onside).


The bottom line: -

-         Don’t take a finesse if you don’t need to; combine your options.

-         Don’t turn an outright top into 40% by subsequently placing the North cards in the East slot and vice-versa.

-         The guilty parties will get penalised for a mis-board if it means that the following pair(s) do not get to play the correct board.

-         AJ1097 is usually worth far more than 5 points.


What’s the 2nd double?                                        Board 13 from Friday 26th 


Dealer:             AK10954                                   West(E)     North         East          South

North               97                                               -                 pass           pass         1

Both vul            K96                                            dbl             1              pass         2

                        62                                              pass (1)      2              pass         pass

dbl   (2)      pass           3            all pass

QJ7                    N             83                        

AQJ10           W    E          6532               (1)  West does not double again here, he has  

A7432                S              QJ5                       no extras and North may have 11 or so points.

J                                         10975                  Partner has heard the first double and will

doubtless bid if North passes if he has a

62                                               suitable red suit holding.

                        K84                                      (2)  What did you bid with this West hand E in

1083                                           this week’s quiz? Now it’s different,

AKQ84                                      North has shown a weak hand and partner has no further chance to bid, a balancing double – for the red suits, is very reasonable.

So what happened? – I lied!

This is not the deal at all, only the East hand is the correct one. The full correct deal is below:


Dealer:             Q97542                                      West(F)     North         East(me)   South

North               97                                               -                 pass           pass         1

Both vul            9632                                           dbl             1              pass         2

                        6                                                pass (1)      2              pass         pass

dbl   (2)      pass           3            dbl

AKJ10                N             83                         all pass

1084               W    E          6532              

A74                    S              QJ5                 The auction is exactly the same (except for the

AQJ                                   10975            final double) but what is West’s double at (2)?

                        6                                          What did you bid with the West hand F? This

AKQJ                                  West (Bob Short) thinks that it is clearly for

K108                                    penalties. I would simply pass as I believe double K8432                                          here (sequence G) is take-out.


Now obviously you can’t have it both ways. Bob S was very critical of me (East), saying that the double was clearly for penalties as he had passed at (1). I (and Hans V and Janne Roos) all disagreed and go along with a hand type E as at the top of the page. A double under the bidder is rarely for penalties and this is no exception. It is clearly a take-out double for the red suits. Now we all know that Bob S can be a little abrasive and hard on his partners at times, but I cope with it easily – I simply write it up in the news sheet (the same treatment Hans B and Chuck got). Of course if Bob S still disagrees with me (and Hans V and Janne on this occasion) then he can always write a contribution which I will publish in the next news-sheet.


And what happened? 3* went -2 for a joint top to N-S

The bottom lines: -

-         Everybody is perfectly free to argue with me. If they are correct I will acknowledge it, if I believe that they are wrong then expect it to be written up in the news-sheets with names.

-         Sensible inputs to the news-sheets from most people will be accepted/included.

An Overbid?                                                         Board 19 from Friday 26th 

Bob Short and I also disagree on this one:


Dealer:             Q54                                            Table A

South               1083                                           West(D)     North         East(me)   South

E-W vul           7632                                           -                 -                 -               1

                        862                                            dbl   (1)      pass           1            pass

4    (2)      all pass      

AK976               N             10832                  

Q                    W    E          9762                    ‘Expert Table’

AJ4                     S              K10                      West(D)     North         East          South

AQ93                                 K104                   -                 -                 -               1

                        J                                                dbl   (1)      pass           1            pass

AKJ54                                      3    (2)      pass           4            all pass




Table A:     (1)  What did you bid with this West hand D(a) in this week’s quiz? Dbl here is fine, the hand is too strong for a simple 1 overcall.

(2)   What did you bid with this West hand D(b) in this week’s quiz? In my opinion this is an overbid if you are playing with a reasonably sensible partner. 4 here says that you can make game opposite no more that four trumps and a couple of points – the West hand is not good enough, especially with a probably wasted Q.

‘Expert       (2)  Our Experts trust their partner of course. 2 here would show a good hand –

 Table’             inviting partner to bid game with 7-9. 3 shows a very good hand – inviting partner to bid game with 4-6+. 4 shows a huge hand which says that game is probably making if partner has as little as 0-3. I think that 3 is clear opposite a partner who understands this (I do) and 4 is a gross overbid.


And what happened? Everybody bid 4 and made +1.

The bottom lines: -

-         Bridge is a partnership game. As it happens East had a very useful 6 points (so will obviously bid game over 3) and the ’s behaved and so it did not matter if West (Bob S) overbid or not.

-     Bob continued to insist that his 4 bid is correct, claiming that the contract will make opposite virtually any hand with 4 ’s. I disagree. And note that there is no guarantee that partner has 4 ’s; he could easily be 3433 and bust, in which case 4 goes about three down.

Double or overcall?                                             Board 20 from Friday 26th 


Dealer:             653                                             Table A

West                104                                             West(C)     North         East          South

both vul            1052                                           pass           pass           pass         1

                        QJ1076                                      dbl   (1)      pass           1            1NT

pass           pass           2            all pass

Q9842                N             AJ7                      

A53                W    E          9876                    Table B

A                        S              8743                     West(C)     North         East          South

8543                                  A9                        pass           pas             pass         1

                        K10                                           1    (1)      pass           2    (2)    pass (3)

KQJ2                                        pass           3    (4)      all pass




Table A:     (1)  What did you bid with this West hand C in this week’s quiz? I hate this dbl.

Table B:     (1)  Every other West made the totally obvious 1 overcall.

(2)   This obvious raise now puts the pressure on South.

(3)   It’s not easy for South now. Two passed and the third bid 2.

(4)   And it’s equally difficult for North over South’s pass. One bid 3 and the other bid 3.


And what happened? 2 by East went -1 for the E-W bottom 3 and 3 by N-S both went -3 for the E-W top. 3 by south went just -1 for a decent score.

The bottom lines: -

-         If you have a five card major, then bid it rather than a fatuous double.


A mis-bid                                                              Board 16 from Friday 26th 


Dealer:             KQJ42                                      

West                Q9                                              West          North         East          South(B)

E-W vul           A8                                              pass           2             pass         2    (1)

                        AKQ4                                        pass           2              pass         3    (2)

pass           3NT           pass         4NT (3)

1086                   N             9                           pass           5    (4)      pass         5    (5) 

A10                W    E          KJ8743                pass          5NT (6)      pass         6NT      

10943                 S              62                         all pass

9752                                  10863           






(1)   A positive 3 response is an option.

(2)   What did you bid with this South hand B in this week’s quiz? Having failed to give a positive response you must show something now. A 4 splinter seems clear, or else an encouraging 3. However, South bid 3 erroneously thinking that it was 4th suit forcing (it is not, it’s natural as both 2 and 2 were artificial bids).

(3)   Apparently Blackwood. I would never bid Blackwood with a weak suit in which partner has shown no values. But the bidding is already a total mess with South not having shown his support and having bid a non-existent suit.

(4)   Apparently two aces.

(5)   After a long think.

(6)   Why on earth North, with a total minimum for his bidding, should decide to over-rule the Blackwood bidder is a mystery. Was he influenced by South’s pause?


And what happened? East did not lead a because South had bid them. 6NT made +1 and the director was called: -


My decision, (in consultation with another qualified director): East was fooled by South’s mis-bid but should probably have found the lead anyway, hoping that partner has something in ’s is surely the only way to beat the contract. South’s 3 was not 4th suit forcing, but he thought it was. So this is a mis-bid and there is no penalty, you only get penalized for a mis-bid if you repeatedly make the same ‘error’. I note that one other player also thought that 3 was 4th suit forcing, so apparently it’s an easy enough error to make. However, the rest of the bidding was also very suspect and I decided to average the board in a vain attempt to keep everybody happy (South agreed with this decision).


The bottom lines: -

-         If you have a support for partner – then support.

-         Do not bid Blackwood with a weak suit in which partner has shown no values.

-         4th suit forcing only applies after three natural bids.

-         There is no penalty for (accidentally) making the wrong bid. There may well be a penalty if you make the correct bid but partner gives an incorrect explanation if asked.

-         There is absolutely no need to get upset/angry about innocent mistakes like this – simply call the director and he will sort it out.

Bidding Quiz Answers


Hand A:     3NT. It’s close, but J9 in partner’s suit is good, and just look at those other intermediates.

Hand B:    4. A splinter agreeing ’s and showing shortage. 3 (forcing and encouraging) is the alternative if you don’t play splinters.

Hand C:    1. With a 5 card major, bid it rather than double.

Hand D:    (a)  dbl. It’s too good for a simple 1 overcall.

(b)  3, showing a very good hand and inviting partner to bid game with around 4+ points. 4 is the bid you make if you have zero trust in partner.

Hand E:    dbl, take-out for the red suits.

Hand F:     pass. You cannot double as that would be take-out.


Bidding Sequence Quiz Answers


G     pass   pass   1     dbl        

        1      pass   2     pass             In my opinion the 2nd double is take-out for the red suits.

        2      pass   pass   dbl              

H     2     pass   2      pass             3 is natural. It’s not 4th suit forcing as both 2 and 2

        2      pass   3                          are artificial.